Christmas . . . or Truth . . . in the Crosshairs . . .

29 Dec
The following will be lengthy and to ‘get it all’ you’re gonna have to read it to the end . . . The first part is an article published by Nathan Leal of Watchman’s Cry, a site that we follow and listen to regularly. Afterwards is the email correspondence between us and Nathan concerning the article. We posted it all in it’s entirety to be sure and not misquote or leave out or impact the context. As you read, you will understand there will be more installments to come as we address some of the statements in the article. There are statements in Nathan’s article that we wholeheartedly agree withbased on the Word. There are others in the article that need to be addressed based on Scripture. Please, this should not in any way be perceived as a personal attack on Nathan or ‘bashing’ of anyone. Even if there is a difference in understanding or stance, this is not to impugn personal character or relationship with our Father. We should all pray for one another for wisdom, insight, discernment in these days . . . ears to hear and eyes to see . . . Shalom
Watchman’s Cry – Word’s from My Heart
Legalism in Today’s Body of Christ –
Christmas in the Crosshairs




By Nathan Leal – December 27, 2013




Warning – this article is going to offend some, but it is also going to set others free.

Legalism is destroying the remnant church! I’m sorry that I have to say this but I believe that it is true. 

Over the last few years, I have watched several theological trends gain traction in the lives of believers. One of the trends has to do with believers adding rules of the old law to their Christian walk.

There are many reasons that this is happening but in summary it has to do with a confusion of what holiness is over faith. The confusion goes even deeper where some are substituting an exterior of self-fortified walls based on law keeping and believe it to be an exhibition of inner sanctification.

These self-fortified walls are adorned with a devotion to amendments which harpoon Christianity and convert it into a religion of pious regulation and religious order.

Now folks, I am sure that what I’m about to say is going to offend some of those who are a part of this movement. But it must be stated because this trend is becoming a stranglehold for many people.


  • Inner sanctification will never be accomplished by outer works, or by the outer abstaining of things which are benign.
  • Inner sanctification will not be accomplished by the adorning of the outer garments of spirituality.


…nor will it be accomplished because a believer insists that one should use the name “Yeshua” instead of “Jesus.”

…or worship on “Saturday” instead of “Sunday.”

Nor will it be accomplished by whether or not a person celebrates…

… are you ready folks?

…whether or not a believer celebrates Christmas with their family.

Are You Still With Me?

I know that I just opened a can of worms but I felt the need to talk about this. Now ladies and gentlemen, please know that I have no ill will toward anyone but I really believe that I must visit this topic.

I know that it is dangerous ground and that some could argue against what I am going to say but please hear me out.

Folks, our faith has to do with our relationship with Jesus. It has to do with whether or not we have repented of the sins that were inside of us.

Our faith has to do with whether or not we have been born again into spiritual renewal. It has to do with our understanding of the power of the Blood of Jesus.

Our faith has to do with our devotion to worshiping Jesus every day of the week, to the born again believer, every day is the Sabbath. Why? Because Jesus IS the Sabbath!

The Sabbath is not a day in the week. The Sabbath is the immersion of us with Him, our Lord and Savior.

The Sabbath in the days of old was a SHADOW of what is available to us now in the present. The Lord’s Day is every day. This is a great mystery and seems to have a segment of today’s believer’s confused.

Again, I know that these words are challenging but is it possible that there is truth in them?

The Annual Attack

I have noticed that every year around this time, I start seeing the bashing and attacks begin against those who celebrate Christmas with their families. I have witnessed that there are some who condemn those who are remembering and celebrating the birth of our Lord on this holiday.

Why is this?

“Well Nathan, it is because Christmas is a pagan holiday! I studied it. I can prove it, I watched the YouTube’s that showed me!.. It is very evil!”

My reply, … pagan to whom?…

And thus … It is as it is… in the eye of the beholder! In other words, I guess if someone is convinced that it is evil then that is their choice. We all have a conscience so let your’s guide you.

However, why is it that with this holiday, some of the enemies of Christmas become crusaders who enlist themselves in a campaign of condemnation to those with holiday cheer?

I have seen some of the arguments against Christmas. I have also seen that some of the anti-Christmas rhetoric generalize the holiday and likens those who acknowledge the day as participating in an abomination that has few equals.

To this I say, “Absurd!”

Folks, if you choose to not celebrate the holiday is it because of conscience or do you really believe that it is an unpardonable sin?

In my humble opinion, celebrating CHRISTmas is not equal to eating babies or stealing candy from crippled kids!

But based on the hatred that I see towards it on the internet, it would seem that having a nativity in one’s house is an evil of high proportions!

I am amazed that while I can see our Lord in the holiday, others only see the pollution of paganism. Perhaps I need better spectacles.

Or perhaps Jesus will show me my error and if this is in my future, I will mend my ways and seal the breach against Christmas.

I don’t know. If it is possible that I just need to come around, then why won’t the anti-Christmas people offer prayers for me, or encouraging words seasoned with love and grace to challenge me? Because this is not what I encounter during this time of year. Instead, I encounter passionate diatribes that inform me of my failure.

The accusations are colorful…

“You are a child of Babylon!”

“If you have Christmas with your family, you are a fraud!”

You are blind…!

Again folks, if I am blind about this matter, then why do some throw hatred towards me instead of grace? I have a theory of why the encounters are hate-filled. More in a moment…

But as I have processed this whole matter about the movement of legalism in today’s end time church I have to wonder at the logic that is used to isolate Christmas as being “pagan” but ignore the bigger reality.

Paganism is Everywhere!

My friends did you know that the names for the days of the weeks and months in our modern day calendar are named after pagan gods? And every time that any of us reference the name to schedule our lives we are participating in paganism?

Every time folks! When we see the work schedule, the appointment is with pagan names!

…When you tell anyone a date for anything…the names are pagan!

…When you schedule the gathering for worship…again…it happens on a pagan day!Did you know this?

So as I have watched the purists out there talk about the evils of Christmas, I have to wonder, and say to myself…but…but…don’t they know that they are acknowledging pagan days every day of the week.

Does this mean that every day of the week an abomination?

Is saying, “I worship on Saturday,”  really saying, “I worship on Saturn’s Day?”Because that’s what Saturday means and Saturn was a pagan diety.

Uh Oh, Now What? 

Here’s another conundrum, how many times has an anti-Christmas advocate sent out a birthday card with a time and a date…

“Little Joey’s Birthday is this Thursday, January XX.”

Translation – “Little Joey’s Birthday is this Thor’s Day in the month of Janus..XX.”


Janus was the pagan god with two faces. So does this mean that little Joey’s Mommy is committing an abomination because she’s celebrating a party with Thor and Janus? Is Joey’s mommy pagan?

Folks, can you see how absurd that this is?

Again, how many of the anti-Christmas well meaning purists continue to schedule their lives and use the names on the calendar? I suspect it is all of them!

Here’s another disclosure, some of the months on today’s Jewish calendar are named after Babylonian false gods!

Tammuz was a Babylonian God, he was theson of Baal



So what is one supposed to do with this quandary?

Some may rebut that this does not mean we have to join Babylon. And this is true, we are not to be immersed in Babylon. But there is a distinction between living while in Babylon and worshiping the ways of Babylon.

Aside from our Christian walk there are cultural traits, mannerisms and celebrations that do not add or take away from the Christian faith.

1. A salute in the military.
2. A birthday party for the kids.
3. The celebration of country’s national independence. i.e – the Fourth of July.
4. Father’s Day, Mother’s Day, etc.

And this brings me back is my original point, how can anyone escape, when they hurl rocks at others about Christmas, when they themselves use the calendar to schedule their lives?

Folks, please think about this!

And thus, for me, Christmas is NOT about Santa, or elves or a tree,

…or pagan worship!

What Christmas is To Me

Christmas is about the celebration of the birth of our Lord.



“But Nathan, celebrating the birth of Jesus is not sanctioned in the Bible!”


That’s true…and neither is a regular birthday celebration, but we still do that.


“So how can you justify it Nathan?”


How about Colossians 3:17?


“And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.”


In our house, Christmas is a celebration of thanksgiving in the name of our Lord. I do not think that it gets any simpler than that. 

In our house Christmas is also about family.

My friends, one of the most precious things that we have in this life is our families and our loved ones. For a mother and father to have a fruitful bounty of children and teach them about the birth of Christ is not evil!

For a family to engage in worship songs which are about the beautiful, magnificent and holy birth of Christ is not evil!

I have seen the accusations in social media, emails, forums and websites which condemn the tradition of Christmas and equate it with witchcraft and satanic paganism!

But ladies and gentlemen, to call the worship of our Lord, “paganism” is to navigate into an area of self-righteousness and dangerous judgment against the brethren.

Are you still with me? Or are you already writing the hate mail?

Folks, we are living in very perilous times right now. The coming future is not going to be easy for the Christian who desires to be a part of the remnant. But what is the remnant? The answer could also a long sermon, but in summary, the remnant is made up of people who keep the commandments of God.

Jesus summed up the commandments into the concise instructions of loving the Lord thy God with all our strength, soul and mind…in others words, everything in us, and to also love our neighbors as our self.

Loving your neighbor means that you have to love them even if they celebrate Christmas.

Loving your neighbor does not mean that during Christmas time, the stoning should begin!

For those who believe that celebrating Christmas places a believer’s salvation in jeopardy, I have to wonder why the outcry against it must be done with such venom?

Why the hate?

My friends, our faith is not determined by the outer garment. Our faith is determined by whether or not we allowed our heart to be torn and broken in repentance when we faced our sinful stains at the cross; iImmoral stains that have to do with what we read in the scriptures.

1 Corinthians 6:9,10

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Brethren, I do not see the celebration of Christmas in this list.

By the way, if one desires to abstain from this holiday, God bless them. I will not condemn or judge. But why is the “grace” not returned?

Again, I am not sharing this article to create a firestorm, although there’s a chance it might. I am sharing this because right now all of us need to be examining the inside of our own hearts, not the hearts of others who do or do not celebrate Christmas.

For those who desire to throw stones during Christmas time, it makes me wonder what the motives are? Because throwing stones does not show love…


…instead it reveals bitterness!

Folks, I have received the emails! I’ve read them..


..they are mean and nasty!



Most of the hateful ones are from Hebraic Roots and Messianic belief systems. Which lends to the speculation that there are many in this movement that are full of anger and bitterness!


Why is this? I have a theory but I will hold on to it until a later time. 

If you happen to be against Christmas and you are reading this, I have nothing against you as far as your desire to abstain. It is your choice and I will not condemn you or throw rocks at you.

But why is it that many of those who are anti-Christmas cannot return the favor?

Why is it that many in this group must condemn through words that are laced with anger and a spirit of “old fashion meanness!”

You know folks, based on this trend, I have to wonder if in the end times, some of those that will betray the brethren unto death will be in these ranks?


Again, if you happen to be in this group but do not have the anger that I describe, I apologize, but why is that many of your colleagues seem to have so much anger?

My friends, the anger of one’s heart is the tale of the tape! Anger reveals that there are unresolved issues within. And it makes me wonder, does this show that there is a connection?

Is the disdain towards this holiday a sign that there is un-forgiveness towards family members…or ex family members?

Again Nathan…Ouch!

I know folks, but someone has to say it!

…And since I have one foot in the grave, it might as well be me!

We Tried It!

Several years ago, my wife and I decided that we were going to become anti-Christmas. So we got rid of all things Christmas in our house. And for several years, Christmas came and went.

The one thing that I noticed during those years was that I did not feel any different inside. I did not feel holier, or more joyful or more peaceful.

I did notice, however, that I felt sad and empty.

I also noticed that my flesh felt pious and self-righteous, almost like I was better than everybody else because they were being pagan and I was not.

After a few years of this, I noticed something else. I noticed that I had robbed my children of having holiday memories with their mother and father.

I was also guaranteeing that I would never again get to sing the beautiful carols about the birth of our Lord with my family.

…Those beautiful carols, there are many of them that bring a tear to the eye, and feed my soul with a rush of wholesome joy. For who can listen to the song, “O Holy Night” and not be moved?

Who can listen to the powerful words of “Oh Little Town of Bethlehem,” or “Away in a Manger” and not be blessed?

When I banned Christmas from my life several years ago, I was left empty.

There’s another thing about Christmas; it’s the chance to make good memories with your family and your children. It’s the chance to imprint a setting where your children gather together and talk about the birth of our Lord.

I recently announced that I have in autoimmune disease that may someday – “do me in.” With this in mind, I want to make as many memories as I can with my wife and my children. Making beautiful holiday memories is not pagan nor is it evil.

Sitting at a Christmas table and eating a turkey with my family is not pagan, it is a gift! Making beautiful memories is what we are all supposed to be doing right now.

So this is why I have decided to celebrate Christmas. I do not do it to make the world angry. I do not do it to give some ammunition and rocks to be thrown at me.

I do not do it to anger my Hebraic Roots and Messianic brethren out there.

I do it simply for one reason, because I love Jesus and I love my family.

For those of you who may be wrestling with this whole Christmas thing, please know that celebrating it or not celebrating it will not change the condition of your heart.

And making beautiful memories with your family is a privilege that will not always be available.

So my friends make the best of it, whether it is Christmas, Hanukkah or something else.
                     end of article

our first response
Brother Nathan – We have read your message on ‘Legalism’ and it troubles us in our Spirit greatly. Not because you might have caused some offense but because you have missed the point of Scripture and ‘pigeon-holed’ a lot of people with many of your statements. We support some of the comments you made and adamantly disagree with other statements based on the Word of the Living God. We cannot address all of this article at this time – it will take a day or two to pray and respond properly under the leadership of His Spirit. Allow it to suffice for now that we do pray for you – for healing, strength, provision – and all the watchmen – a group of which we are a part – and do not condemn folks for not walking according to the Word.
But there is much you have missed and misapplied in your article concerning ‘legalism’. By the way, do you understand the true definition of ‘legalism’ or ‘legalist’ ? It is one who walks and conducts themselves according to the recognized standard of conduct for the group to which they belong. As ‘Believers’ what is our recognized standard ? The Word – the full counsel of God . . .
not our denominational interpretation thereof. We are in our 60’s with many years in ministry with a strong baptist background and God has corrected us in many of these areas. Paganism and idolatry are not the same thing but both are abhorrent to our Father.
We love you brother and will share much more in the days to come.   Remeber, Hebrews 4:9 states that even in light of all that Jesus has done, there still remains a ‘Sabbath-keeping’ for God’s people. Study in the words . . . for they do mean something . . .
Blessings to you and yours – Jerry & Rhonda

Brother Nathan – This installment will be the beginning of a loving response to your article ‘Christmas in the Crosshairs’ . . . You are very honest and candid in your article. Please understand that we will attempt to use the same candor and honesty in our response and any comments that may seem offensive are not intended for that purpose, but rather an effort to be lovingly honest as we share what we have come to understand as the Truth of the Word. 
        . . . perhaps Jesus will show me my error and if this is in my future, I will mend my ways and seal the breach against Christmas. I don’t know. If it is possible that I just need to come around, then why won’t the anti-Christmas people offer prayers for me, or encouraging words seasoned with love and grace to challenge me?”  
As I stated earlier, we and many others we know in this ‘messianic/hebrew roots/restoration movement in these last days that listen to any of your teachings do pray for you as well as other of the ‘watchmen’. We pray for your healing, for provision, as well as for wisdom and insight. We would hope to encourage and challenge by our words and any changing in your direction or convictions has to be a work of the Holy Spirit. 
    We are called to be light and salt in the place where we are. Light to those in darkness and salt – that which preserves and seals and protects although it does burn a little. 
    One of the first things we will ask is concerning your statement – ‘Sabbath is not a day’ . . .  Sabbath has always been a day. It is a picture of rest to come in the kingdom but the biblical Sabbath has never changed. It, along with the relationship between and husband and wife, is one of the two pillars and principles on which God has hung His entire gospel plan. The 7th day and marriage relationship were both established in the beginning and has never changed . . . and will never change, according to the Word. Jesus reiterated the Sabbath and it’s proper keeping in both His practices and teachings . . . and He is our example. If you want to truly understand prophecy you must understand the Feasts of the Lord and to truly understand the Feasts you must understand the biblical Sabbath. ( Gen. 2:2-3, Leviticus 23:1-4, )
Isaiah 56:1 Thus says the LORD, “Preserve justice, and do righteousness, For My salvation ( Yeshua – Jesus )  is about to come And My righteousness to be revealed.
 2 “How blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who takes hold of it; Who keeps from profaning the sabbath, And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”
 3 Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the LORD say, “The LORD will surely separate me from His people.” Neither let the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.”
 4 For thus says the LORD, “To the eunuchs who keep My sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant,
 5 To them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial, And a name better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name which will not be cut off.
 6 “Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath, And holds fast My covenant;
 7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar; For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.
” Exodus 31:13 “But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘You shall surely observe My sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you.
( Eph.2:11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called ” uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (that done in the body by the hands of men)–
 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from the citizenship of Israel and strangers to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.
 19 Therefore, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of God’s household . . .)
(The following is during the Millienal reign of Christ . . .)   Ezekiel 46:1 ‘Thus says the Lord God, “The gate of the inner court facing east shall be shut the six working days; but it shall be opened on the sabbath day, and opened on the day of the new moon.
( this is referencing the days leading into the ‘birth pangs’ )  Matthew 24:20  Jesus sand –
“But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath:”
If the sabbath is not a day and of importance, then why did HE make this statement ?
if it is not a day or a specific day, is that not confusion ?

Matthew 5:18 Truly I tell you ( Jesus speaking ), heaven and earth will pass away, but not the slightest stroke of a pen will pass from the Law until all has been accomplished.

Matthew 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of the commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The Sabbath is a portion of the commandments ( the 4th commandment ) that we are mandated to obey . . . willful submission to the ways of a loving Father . . .

To say that  ‘the Sabbath is not a day’ is to ignore much of Scripture and much of what we are called to, both now and in the Kingdom to come as a set-apart people because of the Blood of Messiah . . .
Salvation by grace through faith . . . Christ, and Him crucified . . . then obedience . . . but  to the Word from a saved people is our choice . . . we can choose to be obedient children or disobedient children . . . the choice is ours . . . but there are consequences to our choices.
In the next segment of our response we will talk about ‘faith’ and ‘works’ . . .
We love you in the Lord and pray for you and your family in these days.
shalom – J & R               end of our first response

Nathan’s response and P.S. to us
Have a Happy New Year.


I am not interested in being taught Hebraic Roots.


God Bless,  Nathan
Jerry I want to add that do appreciate your labor and efforts…. and also you shared with a good attitude of grace, for that I am appreciative but I am not desiring of this information. I have seen it already from many other sources. At this point, I cannot seeing that I will change my mind.
 So please brother save yourself the time. I am a limited with mine.
 God Bless     end of Nathan’s response and P.S. to us

our reply to Nathan

Shalom brother – I guess the first thing that comes to mind is the fact that nowhere in our response to you was ‘teaching you hebrew roots’ mentioned. The ‘information’ we shared is not just info and is not ‘hebrew roots’ but Scripture straight out of the book and in context.

    You implied if someone would challenge you ‘in love’ you would be interested in looking and listening. Based on your reply, that appears not to be the case. We all, no matter our position or calling, must maintain a teachable spirit. 
    You have made it clear you are not interested in hearing anything else from us and we will honor your request. We are, however, compelled to continue our response to your article and post it on our website, blog and talk group in hopes that some of the damage done to those sitting on the fence looking for Truth and direction can be repaired. You have potentially done much damage.
    The spirit of Jezebel, spoken of by Jesus to the church in Revelation, led people away from the Truth of the Word in to other traditions and practices and eating food sacrificed to idols . . . idolatry . . . christmas is not the ‘unpardonable sin’, idolatry is, according to John.
    Bless your heart, you have done the very thing that you accuse others of. We somehow implied ‘hebrew roots’ and you immediately cut us off. We have followed your site for many years. This is not the first time you have done this to folks.And yet we know that you keep christmas and we continue to listen and weigh what you have to say and also pray for you and your family. What’s wrong with us ? Should we not follow your example ? You are doing the same thing to others that you accuse them of and you don’t see it.
    We will not bother you further or take up anymore of your time, as you requested.
If you wish to follow our continuing response to your article, you can do so at our website or blog. We will continue as we hopefully started . . . with loving candor, honesty and compassion. It is not our job to convict or change some one. To quote an acqaintance, “that’s above our pay grade . . .” We will attempt to continue to sow Seed ( the Word ) do a little watering and every once in awhile be part of the harvest.
We will continue to pray for you and yours and all those in service of our Lord that we are connected with. We hope for the same in return.

Again . . .Blessings to you and yours – J & R      end of our reply . . .


Posted by on December 29, 2013 in Uncategorized


4 responses to “Christmas . . . or Truth . . . in the Crosshairs . . .

  1. Paul Rowe

    January 3, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    It is unfortunate that Nathan is not willing to see the scriptural backing of both the keeping of Sabbath, and the paganism of xmas. As I read some of Nathan’s responses and comments about paganism, and the excuses. 2 Corinthians 4: 3-4 came to mind.
    3) But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
    4) whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

    Now I do not declare this to be Nathan’s case. But as we get further into these last days, it seems quite clear that God is seperating the sheep from the goats.

    Those who are truly seeking to walk in God’s word and ways His way and not their own, are having eyes to see and ears to hear what is His truth and what we’ve been taught as lies and false doctrine. They are the sheep.

    Those who are refusing to see the truth that is laid out before them in absolute clarity, yet insist on making excuses and comprises so they can continue the practices that are the “popular majority” in the church, are having their eyes veiled. They are seeking to serve God their way and not His.
    This would be the goats.

    We must of course continue to pray earnestly for those who have been misled and/or are misleading others, that God will open their eyes and they receive forgiveness for what is sin before the Father. As long as we breath we have hope.
    Jude states that some we need to be gentile with, and there are some that must be yanked out of the fire.
    As many of us, we were all taught these lies,
    Jeremiah 16:19
    “O LORD, my strength and my fortress, My refuge in the day of affliction, The Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, “Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.”

    We have received just that, many lies of how to worship God that He said don’t do. As we get further into these last days, God continues to uncover more of His truth so that when it is all said and done, we will have no excuse when we stand before Him to give account of our lives.

    Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    Isaiah 66:2b “But on this one will I look; On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, And who TREMBLES at My word.”

    To Nathan:
    There is nothing of any of these topics that have anything to do with hebrew roots, it is in it’s most simple term, God’s Word. I implore you to not allow your distaste for hebraic roots to keep you from seeing what is God’s clear and absolute truth.
    May you be hungry for His truth and that alone, and may your heart hunger after His ways and not your own.
    We all need prayer, we all need guidance and direction. We all need to be sharpened.
    May God bless you and your family, and may His light shine brightly in your heart.


  2. DeeDee

    January 4, 2014 at 9:49 am

    J & R,
    Thank you for speaking truth to Nathan. My heart has been breaking over this article he posted. I have been listening to Nathan since he started his ministry and recently have been called to offer prayer for him and his wife. I had been led to not listen to his messages over the past six months. There is much hate coming from his site to those that are choosing to walk in truth and follow the ancient of days. I love Nathan and Donna and will continue to pray that they would see they are not going against “Hebrew Roots” in what they are doing, but going against the Father. When the golden calf was offered at the Mt., Aaron chose to say they would make it a feast unto the Lord the next day. It was mixture and God wanted to consume them for it. Exodus 32:1-10 When we celebrate pagan festivals in the name of the Lord, we are doing the same thing. So many people I talk to understand the roots of the holidays but continue in their celebrations not seeing how it upsets our Lord. No one has offered to seek the Lord and inquire of Him, how He feels about it. They do their own thing and then believe God receives it. My heart breaks as I believe the Lords does as a people no longer care what He says or feels. It doesn’t seem to matter that in Ezekiel 8 our Father speaks of the abominations of the people. In Ezekiel 8:14 he talks of the women weeping for Tammuz. It was an abomination to him. Tammuz is one of the names of the gods celebrated on Dec. 25. He was the “son” of Nimrod. So wouldn’t celebrating Christmas be the same thing since it’s the worship of Tammuz? So again I believe in your response to Nathan, the Father has answered my prayers. My you continue to be led and blessed in the matter.

    • DeeDee

      January 4, 2014 at 10:34 am

      Please change the greeting on the previous post to read J & R whom wrote specifically to Nathan. I do agree with Paul’s post also.
      Thank you and I apologize for the error.

  3. Heather

    January 20, 2014 at 12:19 am

    I emailed Nathan too, in love, like he wanted. His one word response to me was: “Galatians.”

    I normally wouldn’t publish a personal email, but I fear that he’s misleading people with his own interpretation of scriptures and I’m fearful for him. Nathan, I’m a watchman on the wall – watching for you, in love! Open rebuke is better than secret love my friend and I love you.

    Here’s my email:

    “I just read your letter on Christmas. I’m sorry that people were mean and hateful to you. I appreciate and love you.

    Please don’t celebrate it. We can’t go by our “feelings” or what it “means” to us. Otherwise we could just “feel” our way through the scriptures and interpret what they “mean” to us personally.

    The Lord has given us holidays instead of Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Mardi Gras, etc. We can celebrate Hanukah which is most likely the conception of Jesus who is the light of the world! Praise God 🙂 Yes, Jesus is our rest, comfort and peace. But there is still a Sabbath rest for the true people of God (Hebrews 4:9). Please take your rest and get refreshed and call it a delight. It brings a supernatural healing and restoration.

    I’m sad that you are under such attack but people who want to hate on you. You are a good man with a good message. Please don’t get bitter or angry. You can’t help what people think about you, or the mean and nasty emails that you get. It’s part of your ministry as a watchman on the wall. And there is a great reward. Don’t be weary in well doing.

    Remember the pagan things of the Olympics? Just think about how “real” they are to them who worship the enemy. There really is a dark side and I believe that the holidays of the world mimick and mock God’s wonderful holy days. He set the stars, moon, sun and in the sky first to be a witness of these appointed, set, and refreshing times. It’s his calendar. Why do you think the enemy has us bouncing back and forth every single month forcing us to celebrate his counterfeits? There’s a real reason my friend. I’m sure of it.

    This Christmas I was grieved in the spirit. I had a vision of a beautiful table, feast and banquet that Lord had prepared for us. The spirit impressed the heartbreak of God by people choosing the things of this world over His wonderful blessings. He wants to abide in us.

    Abide in Him, on His terms. Let’s do away with our feelings and walk by obedience and keep His commandments that are not grievous because we love Him.

    Much love in Yeshua,


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